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<title><![CDATA[Can you respect Sarah Palin, even if you won't vote for her?]]></title>
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<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 23:15:59 +0000</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Can feminists who consider Sarah Palin the antithesis of everything they hold dear still respect t]]></description>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can feminists who consider Sarah Palin the antithesis of everything they hold dear still respect the vice presidential nominee? Should we?</p>
<p>That's the question in my mind after reading <a href="http://www.womensenews.org/article.cfm/dyn/aid/3770" target="_blank">"I don't have to vote for Palin to respect her," by Jane Marcellus</a>, published this week at womensenews.org  Marcellus describes herself as "a feminist researcher" who writes about historical workplace stereotypes of women. Her moment of truth came as she watched the Vice Presidential debate and realized she wanted Sarah Palin to fail. Another woman, a sister under the skin, stands on the highest national platform, and many, many women choose on a daily basis to disrespect her.</p>
<p>Why? Read the essay to learn the author's view - mine is a little different. A little simpler, I think.</p>
<p>I have a great deal of trouble respecting anyone, man or woman, who does not show respect for me. True, Governor Palin has no idea who I am. But while she funnels her attention and empathy to the "Joe Six Packs" and "hockey moms" of the world, she shows contempt for Barack Obama, and by association, all who share his liberal views. And that includes me. </p>
<p>I can understand the concern over disrespect. I can even see parallels between the harassment heaped upon Governor Palin and the attacks on Hillary Clinton during the Democratic primary. I just cannot feel compelled to show respect for someone based solely on her gender. However...</p>
<p>I also come back over and over again to this basic principle, a tenet of every major world religion and - as far as I'm concerned - the basis for living a respectable life: Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. And the deal isn't conditioned on what the "others" have done to you first.</p>
<p>And so I respect Sarah Palin not because she is a woman, because she is a candidate. I respect Sarah Palin because it is, quite simply, the only way I can live in harmony and peace with myself.</p>
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<title><![CDATA[Élections fédérales: Le "deal" libéral-vert fait des petits!]]></title>
<link>http://richard3.wordpress.com/?p=1694</link>
<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 23:01:47 +0000</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Non-contents de leur &#8220;deal&#8221; antérieur, avec les libéraux, lequel faisait en sorte qu]]></description>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Non-contents de leur "deal" antérieur, avec les libéraux, lequel faisait en sorte qu'un des deux partis ne présentait pas de candidat dans la circonscription du chef de l'autre parti, les verts sont allés encore plus loin.</p>
<p>Déjà que dans certaines circonscriptions, au Québec, quelques candidats verts ont déclaré se retirer de la course, et encourager leurs supporteurs à voter libéral, dans le but de battre les conservateurs, voilà que la chef des verts, Elizabeth May, en rajoute.  En effet, <a href="http://www.jminforme.ca/elections/article/444153" target="_blank">après avoir refusé de le faire</a>, il y a quelques jours à peine, <a href="http://www.canoe.com/infos/quebeccanada/federales2008/archives/2008/10/20081012-155631.html" target="_blank">elle demande maintenant aux électeurs d'une soixantaine de circonscriptions, à travers le Canada, de "voter stratégique"</a>, soit en votant pour les libéraux, soit pour les néodémocrates, afin d'empêcher les conservateurs de remporter la victoire, aux élections de mardi prochain.</p>
<p>Pendant que Gilles Duceppe, de son côté, demande à sa garde rapprochée, "Tassez-le donc de là, c'est un imbécile!", en parlant de Luc Harvey, député conservateur dans la circonscription de Louis-Hébert, sur lequel il est tombé lors d'un bain de foule au marché Sainte-Foy, à Québec, voilà que la leader des verts demande à ses gens de voter pour d'autres!  Cou'donc, qu'ont-ils fait de si mal, les conservateurs?  Les chefs des tiers-partis ne sont pas contents d'avoir des gestionnaires qui respectent leurs engagements?  Comme ces deux partis (le bloc et les verts) ne prendront jamais le pouvoir, ils ont le beau jeu de "se mettre dans les jambes" de ceux qui exercent le pouvoir.</p>
<p>J'ai une idée, afin de séparer les "vrais" des amateurs, lors des prochaines élections.  Pas celles de mardi prochain, mais les suivantes.  La règle serait simple; pour être admis au débat des chefs, il faudra avoir au moins cinq députés élus à la Chambre des communes, et avoir des candidats dans 7 provinces, représentant 50% de la population.  Simple, précis, et les vrais prétendants au pouvoir pourraient débattre en paix.  À voir ce à quoi les deux débats ont ressemblé, cette fois-ci, je crois que ce serait la meilleure chose à faire.  Pas de régionaux, ni de "traîneux" de fin de course!  Que de véritables prétendants au pouvoir!</p>
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<title><![CDATA[Alice Palmer Revisited]]></title>
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<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 19:31:14 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.mchenrycountyblog.com/uploaded_images/T-shirt-I-don%27t-care-785391.jpg"></a>This article deserves a re-read for those familar, and definitely a read for those who are unfamiliar with Senator Barack Obama's political history pertianing to former Illinois state Senator Alice Palmer.  Courtesy of the Obama-friendly Chicago Tribune, no less.</p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><a href="http://www.thehistorymakers.com/bio_images/1208287208.jpg"><img class="alignnone" src="http://www.thehistorymakers.com/bio_images/1208287208.jpg" alt="" width="210" height="210" /></a><br />
"Former Illinois state Senator Alice Palmer"<br />
<em>Image courtesy of </em><a href="http://www.thehistorymakers.com/biography/category_details.asp?sp=1&#38;category=politicalMakers"><em>http://www.thehistorymakers.com/biography/category_details.asp?sp=1&#38;category=politicalMakers</em></a><em>.</em></p>
<p><a href="http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/obama/chi-070403obama-ballot-archive,0,5297304,full.story">Obama Knows His Way Around A Ballot</a> from the Chicago Tribune on April 3, 2007. </p>
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<p>The day after <a id="EVFES000168" class="taxInlineTagLink" title="New Year's" href="http://www.chicagotribune.com/topic/arts-culture/new-years-EVFES000168.topic">New Year's</a> 1996, operatives for <strong><a rel="tag" href="http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/obama/">Barack Obama</a></strong> filed into a barren hearing room of the Chicago Board of Election Commissioners.</p>
<p>There they began the tedious process of <strong>challenging hundreds of signatures on the nominating petitions of state Sen. Alice Palmer</strong>, the longtime progressive activist from the city's South Side. And they kept challenging petitions <strong>until every one of </strong><a rel="tag" href="http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/obama/"><strong>Obama's</strong></a><strong> four Democratic primary rivals was forced off the ballot</strong>.</p>
<p>Fresh from his work as a civil rights lawyer and head of a voter registration project that expanded access to the ballot box, Obama launched his first campaign for the Illinois Senate saying he wanted to empower disenfranchised citizens.</p>
<p>But in that initial bid for political office, <strong>Obama quickly mastered the bare-knuckle arts of Chicago electoral politics. His overwhelming legal onslaught signaled his impatience to gain office, even if that meant elbowing aside an elder stateswoman like Palmer.</strong></p>
<p><strong>A close examination of Obama's first campaign clouds the image he has cultivated throughout his political career</strong>: The man now running for president on a message of giving a voice to the voiceless <strong>first entered public office not by leveling the playing field, but by clearing it.</strong></p>
<p>One of the candidates he eliminated, long-shot contender Gha-is Askia, now says that Obama's petition challenges belied his image as a champion of the little guy and crusader for voter rights.</p>
<p><strong>"Why say you're for a new tomorrow, then do old-style Chicago politics to remove legitimate candidates?" Askia said. "He talks about honor and democracy, but what honor is there in getting rid of every other candidate so you can run scot-free? Why not let the people decide?"</strong></p>
<p>In a recent interview, Obama granted that "there's a legitimate argument to be made that you shouldn't create barriers to people getting on the ballot."</p>
<p>But the unsparing legal tactics were justified, he said, by obvious flaws in his opponents' signature sheets. "To my mind, we were just abiding by the rules that had been set up," Obama recalled.</p>
<p>"I gave some thought to … should people be on the ballot even if they didn't meet the requirements," he said. "My conclusion was that if you couldn't run a successful petition drive, then that raised questions in terms of how effective a representative you were going to be."</p>
<p>Asked whether the district's primary voters were well-served by having only one candidate, Obama smiled and said: "I think they ended up with a very good state senator."</p>
<h3 class="subhead">Obama behind challenges</h3>
<p>America has been defined in part by civil rights and good government battles fought out in Chicago's 13th District, which in 1996 spanned Hyde Park mansions, South Shore bungalows and poverty-bitten precincts of Englewood.</p>
<p>It was in this part of the city that an eager reform Democrat by the name of Abner Mikva first entered elected office in the 1950s. And here a young, brash minister named <a id="PEPLT007437" class="taxInlineTagLink" title="Jesse Jackson" href="http://www.chicagotribune.com/topic/social-issues/racism/jesse-jackson-PEPLT007437.topic">Jesse Jackson</a> ran Operation Breadbasket, leading marchers who sought to pressure grocery chains to hire minorities.</p>
<p>Palmer served the district in the Illinois Senate for much of the 1990s. Decades earlier, she was working as a community organizer in the area when Obama was growing up in Hawaii and Indonesia. <strong>She risked her safe seat to run for Congress and touted Obama as a suitable successor</strong>, according to news accounts and interviews.</p>
<p>But when Palmer got clobbered in that November 1995 special congressional race, <strong>her supporters asked Obama to fold his campaign so she could easily retain her state Senate seat</strong>.</p>
<p><strong>Obama not only refused to step aside, he filed challenges that nullified Palmer's hastily gathered nominating petitions, forcing her to withdraw.</strong></p>
<p>"I liked Alice Palmer a lot. I thought she was a good public servant," Obama said. "It was very awkward. That part of it I wish had played out entirely differently."</p>
<p>His choice divided veteran Chicago political activists.</p>
<p>"There was friction about the decision he made," said City Colleges of Chicago professor emeritus Timuel Black, who tried to negotiate with Obama on Palmer's behalf. "There were deep disagreements."</p>
<p>Had Palmer survived the petition challenge, Obama would have faced the daunting task of taking on an incumbent senator. Palmer's elimination marked the first of several fortuitous political moments in Obama's electoral success: He won the 2004 primary and general elections for U.S. Senate after tough challengers imploded when their messy divorce files were unsealed.</p>
<p>Obama contended that in the case of the 1996 race, in which he routed token opposition in the general election, he was ready to compete in the primary if necessary.</p>
<p>"We actually ran a terrific campaign up until the point we knew that we weren't going to have to appear on the ballot with anybody," Obama said. "I mean, we had prepared for it. We had raised money. We had tons of volunteers. There was enormous enthusiasm."</p>
<p>And he defended his use of ballot maneuvers: "If you can win, you should win and get to work doing the people's business."</p>
<p>At the time, though, Obama seemed less at ease with the decision, according to aides. They said the first-time candidate initially expressed reservations about using challenges to eliminate all his fellow Democrats.</p>
<p>"He wondered if we should knock everybody off the ballot. How would that look?" said Ronald Davis, the paid Obama campaign consultant whom Obama referred to as his "guru of petitions."</p>
<p>In the end, Davis filed objections to all four of Obama's Democratic rivals at the candidate's behest.</p>
<p>While Obama didn't attend the hearings, "he wanted us to call him every night and let him know what we were doing," Davis said, noting that Palmer and the others seemed unprepared for the challenges.</p>
<p>But Obama didn't gloat over the victories. "I don't think he thought it was, you know, sporting," said Will Burns, a 1996 Obama campaign volunteer who assisted with the petition challenges. "He wasn't very proud of it."</p>
<h3 class="subhead">Endorsement or informal nod?</h3>
<p>By the summer of 1995, Obama, 34, had completed his globe-trotting education and settled deep into Chicago's South Side.</p>
<p>He had gone to Harvard Law School with private ambitions of someday following <a id="PEHST002266" class="taxInlineTagLink" title="Harold Washington" href="http://www.chicagotribune.com/topic/politics/local-authority/harold-washington-PEHST002266.topic">Harold Washington</a> as mayor of Chicago. At Harvard, where Obama was celebrated as the first black president of the Law Review, classmate Gina Torielli remembers him "saying that governor of Illinois would be his dream job."</p>
<p>Back in Chicago after graduation, Obama won respect for running Project Vote, which registered tens of thousands of black Chicagoans. "It's a power thing," the volunteers' T-shirts said.</p>
<p>Community organizers packed his wedding to Michelle Robinson, a South Shore resident and fellow Harvard Law graduate. The newlyweds bought a Hyde Park condo.</p>
<p>His memoir, "Dreams from My Father," was published that summer to warm reviews. He was working at a small but influential legal firm, teaching constitutional law as a <a id="OREDU0000151" class="taxInlineTagLink" title="University of Chicago" href="http://www.chicagotribune.com/topic/education/colleges-universities/university-of-chicago-OREDU0000151.topic">University of Chicago</a> adjunct professor and sitting on the boards of charities.</p>
<p>At the same time, the South Side's political map was thrown up for grabs when then-U.S. Rep. Mel Reynolds was convicted of sex crimes and a special election was called to fill his congressional seat.</p>
<p>Palmer joined the race and, according to multiple accounts, introduced Obama as the successor for her Illinois Senate seat.</p>
<p>"She said, 'I found this wonderful person, this fine young man, so we needn't worry that we'd have a good state senator,' " said former 5th Ward Democratic committeeman Alan Dobry, who volunteered to help both Palmer and Obama that year.</p>
<p>In recent interviews, Obama and Palmer agreed that he asked her whether she wanted to keep her options open and file to run for her state Senate seat as a fallback in case her congressional bid failed.</p>
<p>Obama says he told her: "We haven't started the campaign yet."</p>
<p>"I hadn't publicly announced," he said. "But what I said was that once I announce, and I have started to raise money, and gather supporters, hire staff and opened up an office, signed a lease, then it's going to be very difficult for me to step down. And she gave me repeated assurances that she was in [the congressional race] to stay."</p>
<p>Obama "did say that to me," Palmer says now. "And I certainly did say that I wasn't going to run. There's no question about that."</p>
<p>But beyond that, the private discussions they held in 1995 are shrouded today in disputed and hazy memories.</p>
<p>Obama said Palmer gave him her formal endorsement. "I'm absolutely certain she … publicly spoke and sort of designated me," he recalled.</p>
<p>Palmer disputes that. "I don't know that I like the word 'endorsement,' " she said. "An endorsement to me, having been in legislative politics … that's a very formal kind of thing. I don't think that describes this. An 'informal nod' is how to characterize it."</p>
<p>In July 1995, Obama announced he was planning to run for Palmer's seat. He filed papers creating his fundraising committee a month later and officially announced his candidacy in September.</p>
<p>He emerged that winter as a gifted campaigner who after finishing hectic workdays would layer on thermal underwear to knock on South Side doors.</p>
<p>In impromptu street-corner conversations and media interviews, he disparaged local pols for putting self-preservation ahead of public service. At the last house on a dark block, "he would start a discussion that should have taken five minutes and pretty soon someone was cooking him dinner," said paid campaign consultant Carol Anne Harwell.</p>
<p>Then Palmer's congressional bid collapsed. On Nov. 28, 1995, she placed a distant third behind political powerhouses Jesse Jackson Jr., who holds that congressional seat today, and current state Senate President <a id="PEPLT007428" class="taxInlineTagLink" title="Emil Jones" href="http://www.chicagotribune.com/topic/politics/emil-jones-PEPLT007428.topic">Emil Jones</a> Jr.</p>
<p>Palmer didn't fade quietly away. Citing an "outpouring" of support, she upended the political landscape by switching gears and deciding to run in the March 1996 primary for her state Senate seat.</p>
<p>But she had two big problems. To get on the ballot, Palmer needed to file nominating petitions signed by at least 757 district voters—and the Dec. 18 deadline was just days away.</p>
<p>And then there was Obama, the bright up-and-comer she had all but anointed.</p>
<p>Obama's aides said he seemed anguished over the prospect of defying Palmer. "I really saw turmoil in his face," Harwell said.</p>
<p>Obama sought advice from political veterans such as 4th Ward Ald. Toni Preckwinkle and then-15th Ward Ald. Virgil Jones, who say they urged him to hold his course.</p>
<p>"I thought the world of Alice Palmer," said state Rep. <a id="PEPLT001451" class="taxInlineTagLink" title="Barbara Flynn Currie" href="http://www.chicagotribune.com/topic/politics/barbara-flynn-currie-PEPLT001451.topic">Barbara Flynn Currie</a> (D-Chicago), now the House majority leader. But "at that point she had pulled her own plug."</p>
<p>According to Palmer, it was without her knowledge that her supporters initiated discussions to persuade Obama to step aside. They invited him to the home of state Rep. Lovana "Lou" Jones, now deceased. Obama arrived alone.</p>
<p>"It was a brief meeting," said Black, a Palmer friend who had advised Obama when he was a young community organizer in the mid-1980s.</p>
<p>Obama didn't try to justify his decision to reject Palmer's plea, Black said.</p>
<p><strong>"He did not put it in inflammatory terms, he just did not back away. It was not arguments, it was stubbornness," Black said. "Barack had by then gone ahead in putting together his own campaign, and he just didn't want to stop."</strong></p>
<h3 class="subhead">'If you can get 'em, get 'em'</h3>
<p>Just in time for the Dec. 18, 1995, filing deadline, Palmer submitted 1,580 signatures—about twice the minimum required. That day, Obama lashed out at her, telling the Tribune she had pressured him to withdraw.</p>
<p>"I am disappointed that she's decided to go back on her word to me," he said.</p>
<p>Obama campaign aides also responded that day—but quietly, and out of the limelight.</p>
<p>Davis and Dobry marshaled volunteers and began poring through the nominating petitions of Palmer and the three lesser-known Democrats, according to interviews.</p>
<p>"We looked at those petitions and found that none of them met the requirements of the law," Dobry said. "Alice's people, they'd done it in a great hurry. Almost all her petitions were signed a day or so before the deadline."</p>
<p>According to Davis, Palmer "had kids gathering the names. I remember two of her circulators, Pookie and Squirt."</p>
<p>Davis and others urged Obama to file legal challenges.</p>
<p>Such tactics are legal and frequently used in Chicago. Ballot challenges eliminated 67 of the 245 declared aldermanic candidates in Chicago before this past February's elections, an election board spokesman said.</p>
<p>Davis recalled telling Obama: "If you can get 'em, get 'em. Why give 'em a break?</p>
<p>"I said, 'Barack, I'm going to knock them all off.'</p>
<p>"He said, 'What do you need?'</p>
<p>"I said, 'I need an attorney.'</p>
<p>"He said, 'Who is the best?'</p>
<p>"I said, 'Tom Johnson.' "</p>
<p>Obama already knew civil rights attorney and fellow Harvard Law graduate <a id="PEHST001034" class="taxInlineTagLink" title="Thomas Johnson" href="http://www.chicagotribune.com/topic/arts-culture/thomas-johnson-PEHST001034.topic">Thomas Johnson</a>, who had waged election cases for the late Mayor Washington and had offered Obama informal legal advice since the days of Project Vote.</p>
<p>With Johnson's legal help, Obama's team was confident. They piled binders of polling sheets in the election board office on the second floor of City Hall, and on Jan. 2, 1996, began the days-long hearings that would eliminate the other Democrats.</p>
<p>Little-known candidate Marc Ewell filed 1,286 names, but Obama's objections left him 86 short of the minimum, and election officials struck him from the ballot, records show. Ewell filed a federal lawsuit contesting the board's decision, but Johnson intervened on Obama's behalf and prevailed when Ewell's case was dismissed days later.</p>
<p>Ewell could not be reached for comment, but the federal judge's decision showed how he was tripped up by complexities in the election procedures.</p>
<p>City authorities had just completed a massive, routine purge of unqualified names that eliminated 15,871 people from the 13th District rolls, court records show.</p>
<p>Ewell and other Obama rivals had relied on early 1995 polling sheets to verify the signatures of registered voters—but Obama's challenges were decided at least in part using the most recent, accurate list, records show.</p>
<p>Askia filed 1,899 signatures, but the Obama team sustained objections to 1,211, leaving him 69 short, records show.</p>
<p>Leafing through scrapbooks in his South Shore apartment, Askia, a perennially unsuccessful candidate, acknowledges that he paid <a id="ORGOV0000005" class="taxInlineTagLink" title="Democratic Party" href="http://www.chicagotribune.com/topic/politics/parties-movements/democratic-party-ORGOV0000005.topic">Democratic Party</a> precinct workers $5 a sheet for some of the petitions, and now suspects they used a classic Chicago ruse of passing the papers among themselves to forge the signatures. "They round-tabled me," Askia said.</p>
<p>Palmer to this day does not concede the flaws that Obama's team found in her signatures. She maintains that she could have overcome the Obama team's objections and stayed on the ballot if she had more time and resources.</p>
<p><strong>It was wrenching to withdraw, she said. "But sit for a moment, catch your breath, get up and keep going. I'm a very practical person. Politics is not the only vehicle for accomplishing things." She became a special assistant to the president of the </strong><a id="OREDU0000155" class="taxInlineTagLink" title="University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign" href="http://www.chicagotribune.com/topic/education/colleges-universities/university-of-illinois-at-urbana-champaign-OREDU0000155.topic"><strong>University of Illinois</strong></a><strong> and is now retired.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Obama said he has not been in touch with Palmer since 1996. "No, not really, no," he said.</strong></p>
<p>Though she hasn't determined whom to support in the presidential race, Palmer, 67, said her dispute with Obama doesn't affect her assessment of his fitness to hold office.</p>
<p>Saying that jobless high school dropouts "are sitting on the steps next to my house," Palmer added: "There is a savage economy going on out here, and we've got collateral damage. I am looking closely to see who has the courage, the smarts." </p></div>
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<p>The authors can be reached at <a href="mailto:dyjackson@tribune.com"><em>dyjackson@tribune.com</em></a> and <a href="mailto:rlong@tribune.com"><em>rlong@tribune.com</em></a>.</p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><a href="http://www.mchenrycountyblog.com/uploaded_images/T-shirt-I-don%27t-care-785391.jpg"><img class="aligncenter" src="http://www.mchenrycountyblog.com/uploaded_images/T-shirt-I-don%27t-care-785391.jpg" alt="" width="414" height="173" /></a>"Here's a Little Hint, I Don't Care."<br />
<em>Image courtesy of </em><a href="http://www.mchenrycountyblog.com/labels/T-Shirt.html"><em>http://www.mchenrycountyblog.com/labels/T-Shirt.html</em></a><em>.</em></p>
<p style="text-align:left;">See:</p>
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<li><a href="http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/obama/chi-070403obama-ballot-archive,0,5297304,full.story">http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/obama/chi-070403obama-ballot-archive,0,5297304,full.story</a></li>
<li><a href="http://quipster.wordpress.com/2008/08/19/obama-campaign-lie-about-alice-palmer/">http://quipster.wordpress.com/2008/08/19/obama-campaign-lie-about-alice-palmer/</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/obama/chi-070403obama-ballot-archive,0,5693903.story">http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/obama/chi-070403obama-ballot-archive,0,5693903.story</a></li>
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"Come To Where The Grievance Is, Come To Obama Country"<br />
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<p>If ever there was ample wealth of evidence of the vitriole of Senator Barack Obama's supporters, see <a href="http://michellemalkin.com/2008/10/12/crush-the-obamedia-narrative-look-whos-gripped-by-insane-rage/">Crush the Obamedia narrative: Look who’s “gripped by insane rage.”</a>  This goes beyond disrespect, for it appears there is a very personal agenda on behalf of Obama.  Just one of many examples.  Far worse <a href="http://michellemalkin.com/2008/10/12/crush-the-obamedia-narrative-look-whos-gripped-by-insane-rage/">here</a>.</p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><a href="http://michellemalkin.cachefly.net/michellemalkin.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/dusp3.jpg"><img class="alignnone" src="http://michellemalkin.cachefly.net/michellemalkin.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/dusp3.jpg" alt="" width="361" height="410" /></a><br />
"Got Milk?  It does a POW good." <br />
<em>Image courtesy of </em><a href="http://michellemalkin.com/2008/10/12/crush-the-obamedia-narrative-look-whos-gripped-by-insane-rage/"><em>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/10/12/crush-the-obamedia-narrative-look-whos-gripped-by-insane-rage/</em></a><em>.</em></p>
<p>In <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/11/AR2008101102216.html">Issue of Race Creeps Into Campaign</a> at the Washington Post via <a href="http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tim-graham/2008/10/12/john-lewis-smears-mccain-enabling-racist-violence-wapo-sugar-coats-it-bl">Newsbusters</a>'s "Congressman Compared McCain with George Wallace, Birmingham Church Bombers," we see the following.  </p>
<blockquote><p>Yesterday, civil rights leader <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/related/topic/John+Lewis?tid=informline">John Lewis</a>, a Democratic congressman from Georgia, became the latest advocate to excite the racial debate, condemning <a href="http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/members/m000303/">Sen. John McCain</a> for "sowing the seeds of hatred and division" and accusing the Republican nominee of potentially inciting violence.</p>
<p>In a provocative twist, Lewis drew a rhetorical line connecting McCain to the segregationist Alabama governor <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/related/topic/George+Wallace?tid=informline">George Wallace</a>, and through Wallace to the 1963 church bombing in Birmingham that killed four girls. McCain voiced outrage at the comments, which also drew a <strong>mild rebuke from an aide to </strong><a href="http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/members/o000167/"><strong>Sen. Barack Obama</strong></a>.</p></blockquote>
<p>Obama has typically let others work on race issues for him.</p>
<blockquote><p>He has mostly avoided the topic since, handing off to a network of friends, including <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/related/topic/Edward+Rendell?tid=informline">Pennsylvania Gov. Edward G. Rendell</a> and Ohio Gov. <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/related/topic/Ted+Strickland?tid=informline">Ted Strickland</a>, the task of talking directly to their constituencies about electing a black president.</p></blockquote>
<p>Kudos to McCain for <a href="http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/10/mccain-offended.html">maintaining dignity</a> in the face of blatant race baiting.</p>
<blockquote><p>"Congressman John Lewis' comments represent a character attack against Governor Sarah Palin and me that is shocking and beyond the pale," McCain said. "The notion that legitimate criticism of Senator Obama's record and positions could be compared to Governor George Wallace, his segregationist policies and the violence he provoked is unacceptable and has no place in this campaign."</p>
<p>McCain continued, saying "I am saddened that John Lewis, a man I've always admired, would make such a brazen and baseless attack on my character and the character of the thousands of hardworking Americans who come to our events to cheer for the kind of reform that will put America on the right track."</p>
<p>"I call on Senator Obama to immediately and personally repudiate these outrageous and divisive comments that are so clearly designed to shut down debate 24 days before the election. Our country must return to the important debate about the path forward for America."</p></blockquote>
<p>And surprise that Obama and his supporters <a href="http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/1008/John_Lewis_invoking_George_Wallace_says_McCain_and_Palin_playing_with_fire.html?showall">repeatedly dismiss</a> Obama's own request and plan.</p>
<blockquote><p>"As Barack Obama has said himself, the last thing we need from either party is the kind of angry, divisive rhetoric that tears us apart at a time of crisis when we desperately need to come together. That is the kind of campaign Senator Obama will continue to run in the weeks ahead,”</p></blockquote>
<p>And sad that <a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/10/11/politics/main4515501.shtml">McCain has held Lewis in such esteem</a>.    </p>
<blockquote><p>"I did not know Dr King," McCain said. "But I know John Lewis, and I know what he represents. And John Lewis and I may disagree on some issues, but that's the kind of person I think are true American heroes."</p>
<p>In August, while appearing at a forum on faith, McCain was asked to name three "wise people" he would listen to. He cited Lewis as well as Gen. David Petreaus, head of U.S. troops in Iraq, and former eBay CEO Meg Whitman, a top adviser to his campaign.<!-- sphereit end --></p></blockquote>
<p style="text-align:center;"><a href="http://noquarterusa.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/race-bait_web5.jpg"><img class="alignnone" src="http://noquarterusa.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/race-bait_web5.jpg" alt="" width="360" height="465" /></a><br />
Obama.   Race bait for sale."<br />
<em>Image courtesy of </em><a href="http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/24/selling-race-bait/"><em>http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/24/selling-race-bait/</em></a><em>.</em></p>
<p>And more from <a href="http://wwwwakeupamericans-spree.blogspot.com/2008/10/obama-supporters-call-sarah-palin-cnt.html">Wake Up Americans</a>, <a href="http://uppitywoman08.wordpress.com/2008/10/12/barack-obama-supporters-lead-by-example-and-call-sarah-palin-a-cnt/">Uppity Woman</a>, <a href="http://mcnorman.wordpress.com/2008/10/12/obama-supporters-have-few-language-skills-and-label-palin-cnt/">McNorman</a>, as well as <a href="http://www.lynettelong.com/my_weblog/2008/10/t-shirts-for-sa.html">Lynette Long</a>.  These Obama supporters are REAL proud of themselves.  Who says they don't wear their hateful feelings on their shirts, and stand  tall and proud up for their man, Obama?!?  <strong>Obama must be ever so proud!</strong></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Xn_O-mM2sFk/SPIrLOIR0DI/AAAAAAAAB1w/xQrrXikaQso/s400/SPCunt.JPG"><img class="alignnone" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Xn_O-mM2sFk/SPIrLOIR0DI/AAAAAAAAB1w/xQrrXikaQso/s400/SPCunt.JPG" alt="" width="400" height="300" /></a><br />
"Sarah Palin Is A C*"<br />
<em>Image courtesy of </em><a href="http://wwwwakeupamericans-spree.blogspot.com/2008/10/obama-supporters-call-sarah-palin-cnt.html"><em>http://wwwwakeupamericans-spree.blogspot.com/2008/10/obama-supporters-call-sarah-palin-cnt.html</em></a><em>.</em></p>
<p>See:</p>
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<li><a href="http://michellemalkin.com/2008/10/12/crush-the-obamedia-narrative-look-whos-gripped-by-insane-rage/">http://michellemalkin.com/2008/10/12/crush-the-obamedia-narrative-look-whos-gripped-by-insane-rage/</a></li>
<li><span style="text-decoration:underline;"><span style="color:#000080;"><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/11/AR2008101102216.html">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/11/AR2008101102216.html</a></span></span></li>
<li><a href="http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tim-graham/2008/10/12/john-lewis-smears-mccain-enabling-racist-violence-wapo-sugar-coats-it-bl">http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tim-graham/2008/10/12/john-lewis-smears-mccain-enabling-racist-violence-wapo-sugar-coats-it-bl</a></li>
<li><span style="text-decoration:underline;"><span style="color:#000080;"><a href="http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/10/mccain-offended.html">http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/10/mccain-offended.html</a></span></span></li>
<li><span style="text-decoration:underline;"><span style="color:#000080;"><a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/10/11/politics/main4515501.shtml">http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/10/11/politics/main4515501.shtml</a></span></span></li>
<li><span style="text-decoration:underline;"><span style="color:#000080;"><a href="http://wwwwakeupamericans-spree.blogspot.com/2008/10/obama-supporters-call-sarah-palin-cnt.html">http://wwwwakeupamericans-spree.blogspot.com/2008/10/obama-supporters-call-sarah-palin-cnt.html</a></span></span></li>
<li><span style="text-decoration:underline;"><span style="color:#000080;"><a href="http://uppitywoman08.wordpress.com/2008/10/12/barack-obama-supporters-lead-by-example-and-call-sarah-palin-a-cnt/">http://uppitywoman08.wordpress.com/2008/10/12/barack-obama-supporters-lead-by-example-and-call-sarah-palin-a-cnt/</a></span></span></li>
<li><span style="text-decoration:underline;"><span style="color:#000080;"><a href="http://mcnorman.wordpress.com/2008/10/12/obama-supporters-have-few-language-skills-and-label-palin-cnt/">http://mcnorman.wordpress.com/2008/10/12/obama-supporters-have-few-language-skills-and-label-palin-cnt/</a></span></span></li>
<li><span style="text-decoration:underline;"><span style="color:#000080;"><a href="http://www.lynettelong.com/my_weblog/2008/10/t-shirts-for-sa.html">http://www.lynettelong.com/my_weblog/2008/10/t-shirts-for-sa.html</a></span></span><a href="http://uppitywoman08.wordpress.com/2008/10/12/stop-uncovering-the-truth-about-me-and-i-will-stop-calling-you-a-racist/#comment-20846"></a></li>
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There are lots of reasons why I often have a strong dislike of politics.  While it is undeniably a]]></description>
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<p style="text-align:left;">There are lots of reasons why I often have a strong dislike of politics.  While it is undeniably an important part of our lives and our future, personal attacks make me hate the entire process.</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">Does anyone really think McCain/Palin or Obama/Biden are bad people that want to ruin the country?  While we may disagree on their policies we should pay homage to their dedication to public life.</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">I believe the recent negative rhetoric of both campaigns have signaled to supporters of both sides that it is ok to <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122368132195924869.html">wish harm on Senator Obama</a> or <a href="http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_blog/2008/10/sarah-palin-boo.html">ridicule Governor Palin</a>.</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">How about attacks on the candidates policies?  Instead of suggesting Senator Obama pals around with terrorists, we have all come into contact and even befriended people who may have done things we do not approve of, how about you ask him to explain how he plans to reduce our deficit considering he wants cut taxes to the majority of Americans while increasing government spending on entitlement programs, etc.</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">Also, instead of accusing John McCain of corruption by discussing his ties to the Keating Five, which he was cleared of any wrongdoing and not to mention that was nearly 20 years ago, ask him why he voted against the Bush tax cuts and then supported them.</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">Also, if you think it's just one candidate running attack ads, <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/11/negative.ads/index.html">think again</a>.</p>
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<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 13:45:32 +0000</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[A little while ago, I wrote a post titled Sound Doctrine.  I thought I would continue with Titus, c]]></description>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A little while ago, I wrote a post titled <a title="MW's post on &#34;Sound Doctrine&#34;" href="http://mwmusicvt.wordpress.com/2008/10/03/sound-doctrinesound-doctrine/" target="_blank">Sound Doctrine</a>.  I thought I would continue with Titus, chapter 2, which is where the earlier post got its name.  (Please keep in mind, these are just the musings of some one who desires to love God and be obedient, not a theologian.)</p>
<p>Paul follows up his command to teach sound doctrine with this command:</p>
<blockquote><p>Teach the older men to be temperate, worthy of respect, self-controlled, and sound in faith, in love and endurance.  (Titus 2:2, NIV)</p></blockquote>
<p>Is this part of teaching sound doctrine?  Is this complimentary to sound doctrine?  Perhaps I should look at defining doctrine before I go any further in order to make certain that I am clear with my understanding of the word.</p>
<p>This definition seems to be most applicable to the topic of church doctrine:</p>
<blockquote><p>a principle or position or the body of principles in a branch of knowledge or system of belief (<a title="Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary" href="http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/doctrine" target="_blank">Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary</a>)</p></blockquote>
<p>The teaching of how men should behave doesn't seem to me to be necessarily a doctrinal matter.  While it may be important and complimentary to sound doctrine, it seems that the behaviors listed by Paul in verse 2 are more of a response, or fulfillment, of adhering to sound doctrine.  Not being what I would consider an older man, I can't address these behaviors from a personal perspective.  However, by a casual observer of human behaviors, I've watched enough older men in action to offer up a comment or two.</p>
<p>Be temperate</p>
<p>Again, I'll start with a definition...</p>
<blockquote><p>keeping or held within limits <strong>:</strong> not extreme or excessive (<a title="Definition of Temperate" href="http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/temperate" target="_blank">Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary</a>)</p></blockquote>
<p>Being well-grounded in his faith and with a long life of experiences, an older man is wise to avoid extremes.  Some of the most temperate men I've know have been those who have experienced the most extreme conditions especially in hardship.  I have found the men who have served our country in the military in combat are often the most temperate individuals I know.  Whether it is the difference between the chaotic pace of battle and the comparatively dull pace of ordinary life that helps to moderate a man's temperament, I will probably never know.  What is significant to me is that men who are more temperate tend to be the men who more easily earn others respect.</p>
<p>Be worthy of respect</p>
<p>This would seem to assume that all (or at least most) behaviors in the past have been honorable, noble, or just plain right and good.  I suppose it means more than just the absence of bad behaviors, but it also means leading a life that is complete with notable <em>actions </em>that are worthy of respect.  Helping those in need, being of service to friends and neighbors, etc.</p>
<p>Be self-controlled</p>
<p>All of these characteristics that Paul is identifying seem intertwined rather than successive or exclusive of one another.  Knowing how to be in control of your human sin-nature is probably the least discussed behavior in today's mainline churches (that could be because the concept of sin is very elusive, if not altogether absent, from said churches).  Even after a lifetime of learning to be faithful and obedient to God, Paul exhorts older men to continue in self-control.  This is somewhat encouraging to us younger men who are perhaps dealing with sin-caused struggles that are still new to us or have escaped our detection.</p>
<p>Be sound in faith</p>
<p>Yielding to Christ on a consistent basis results in soundness in faith.  Entering into and completing trials of faith typically yields a stronger faith.  Ultimately, it is God who provides everything that is good and our decision is simply to have faith by yielding to His perfect will.  Who better to emulate and instruct than an older man who has (likely) been through many of his own trials of faith.  Who, by patient instruction, can benefit his younger audiences (especially men) by sharing all of the ups and downs of each trial and bring them to life in a way that will encourage faithfulness even when all hope seems lost.</p>
<p>Be sound in love</p>
<p>God is love.  It is reasonable to expect a man of many years to have experienced so many different trials over the course of his life to become incapable of love the way God would have us love one another.  That is probably why Paul exhorts older men to be firm in love.  Love isn't something that necessarily comes naturally to us as humans (especially men).  Practicing the love that God intended for our relationship with Him and with our neighbors is the only way to be sound in love.  And again, who better a role model of love than a man seasoned by the trials of life who has applied his knowledge of God's ultimate love to every aspect of his journey.</p>
<p>Be sound in endurance</p>
<p>Endurance is persevering.</p>
<blockquote><p>Perseverance must finish its work so that you may be mature and complete, not lacking anything. (James 1:4, NIV)</p></blockquote>
<p>It is refreshing to see some one who is not lacking in anything.  They are strong and they have a powerfully calming affect on those who look to them for guidance.  I realize that completeness will not be accomplished until we reside with Christ in the glory and splendor of heaven, but there are examples of older men who are certainly more complete, more mature, and more content than their younger brethren.  These men exhibit the nature of God even with their human limitations in order for younger men (and women) to have a more complete picture of who God is.</p>
<p>Even though Paul is addressing older men, it is easy for anyone to apply those commands to their own life.  This is what you are aiming for as a mature creation of Christ.  And who better to emulate the perfectness of Jesus than the men who have had a lifetime to experience His grace and goodness.</p>
<p>MW</p>
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<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 12:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought of writing something today but I forgot it^^...My friend Cecil had suggested that in order for me not to forget what I want to write I should keep a paper and a pen with me all the time so that whenever a good idea comes out I could jot down everything immediately...or maybe I should keep those ideas in my heart too...^^</p>
<p>Although, last Friday I wanted to share the homily given to us by our parish priest about knowing how to listen to others words of truth ....or listening from the heart....He said many of us could hear but we really don't know how to listen....Listening from the heart would make you respect the other person he said....That way we will understand each other....Many of us rely mostly on what we know....we have too much pride....and we do not listen well....And when it happens we commit mistakes....and more often we could have avoided those mistakes if we just listened from the heart....</p>
<p>There were students who were present during the mass and somehow they understood the message well....So after the mass I noticed some students becoming more responsible when we had some discussions in the class.....so they listened from the heart....In a way when you convinced other people to know what is good for them somehow they would  believe though they may not easily show that you had convinced them....Probably if you want people to listen to you or believe in you....you should also respect and believe in them....Respect begets respect....</p>
<p>Listening from the heart therefore is important and equally important would be believing that others would believe in you....and they would definitely listen to you as long as you give them the truth....</p>
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<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 12:25:48 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just finished a few pieces of propaganda (advertisment) for the website. The Do Not Conform is a brand new design (thanks Banksy for the inspiration) but the Money, Power! Respect? has been around for a minute, but never quite worked out as a design. It was inspired by the song of the same name by the Lox, later redone by lil' Kim. I think (hope) it has finally come together as a design. Just goes to show We have to constantly be working on that stuff ya'll, That's part of what the "Dig Deeper" tag line for the company is all about. Same as the popular "Do Work, Son" is now, only ours goes a little deeper... Oh, I'm so punny!</p>
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<p>A short documentary film examining the contrasting styles of manhood exhibited by Presidential Candidate Barack Obama and Rapper/Mogul Curtis Jackson, aka 50 Cent. By Byron Hurt.</p>
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<p><strong>Silencing Indigenous People and Cultures: Wizard of Oz author celebrates death of Native American culture in Sitting Bull obit</strong></p>
<p>This is the second in a series of videos from two talks that Rev. Dr. Lynn Hubbard - the <a href="http://www.turtleislandproject.org" target="_blank">Turtle Island Project</a> Director and Co-Founder - gave on Sept. 23 during the 2008 UNITED Conference at <a href="http://www.num.edu" target="_blank">Northern Michigan University</a> in Marquette.</p>
<p>Zoologist and philosopher Neal Evinrude wrote that vivisectionists cut animal vocal cords so they did not have to hear the tortured animal cry as they conducted experiments.</p>
<p><img src="http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp260/TurtleIslandProject/TIPVivisectioncollage.jpg" alt="" width="395" /></p>
<p><img src="http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp260/TurtleIslandProject/Vivisection2.jpg" alt="" width="200" /></p>
<p>The vivisectionists silenced the animal and therefore did not acknowledge it was a tortured being.</p>
<p>The right of passage into the scientific (way of being) centers on the ability to apply the knife to the vocal cords - not just of the dog on the table - but to life itself.</p>
<p>It was about silencing voice then - and reflects the silencing of voices today.</p>
<p><strong>Wizard of Oz versus today's sneaky politicians and the way we treat the environment and one another</strong>.</p>
<p><img src="http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp260/TurtleIslandProject/RevDrLynnHubbardNMUUnited9-23-08-30.jpg" alt="" width="388" /></p>
<p><strong>Rev. Dr. Lynn Hubbard, Turtle Island Project Director and Co-Founder:</strong></p>
<p>We are on the tip of an iceberg and the iceberg runs deep and the ship is running right into it.</p>
<p>Industrial civilization is not sustainable. We all know that. It cannot be sustainable.</p>
<p>Any technology that relies on the use of non-renewables is by definition not sustainable.</p>
<p>We could have solved these problems 50 years ago, but we are not going to solve these problems in the next 20 years. We can start, maybe. But I think we are in for a very, very difficult time.</p>
<p><img src="http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp260/TurtleIslandProject/Wizard%20of%20Oz%20Controversy/TIPOzcollages1.jpg" alt="" width="412" /></p>
<p><strong>Dorothy is not in Kansas anymore. And Dorothy is not coming back to Kansas.</strong><br />
<strong><br />
This is not going to be easy.</strong></p>
<p><strong>And like that Great Oz asked Dorothy and her friends - so are the politicians of our day - they ask us.</strong></p>
<p><img src="http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp260/TurtleIslandProject/Wizard%20of%20Oz%20Controversy/Ozcurtiancollage.jpg" alt="" width="417" /></p>
<p><strong>Pay no attention the Great Oz says to the man behind the curtain. Because the great deception is alive and well.</strong></p>
<p>Hubbard compared the yellow brick road to gold and the Emerald City to the green of money where Dorothy though shed find her salvation.</p>
<p>The Great Wizard of Oz is this old white guy doing his thing, pulling his levers, lying to the people to maintain is power.</p>
<p><img src="http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp260/TurtleIslandProject/Wizard%20of%20Oz%20Controversy/ozhead.jpg" alt="" width="95" /></p>
<p><img src="http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp260/TurtleIslandProject/Wizard%20of%20Oz%20Controversy/wizard-behind-curtain22.jpg" alt="" width="373" /></p>
<p><strong>This is what we have been doing as a culture for how many years  ignoring the man behind the curtain.</strong></p>
<p><strong>And now the chickens are going to come home to roost.</strong></p>
<p>Hubbard reminded the audience of how we all look forward to the Wizard of Oz because it was shown only once a year.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wizard_of_Oz_(1939_film)" target="_blank">Wizard of Oz</a> was written by <strong><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L._Frank_Baum" target="_blank">L. Frank Bauman</a> (Born May 15, 1856)</strong></p>
<p>Originally author Bauman was a failed businessman as a store owner - then edited the local newspaper the Aberdeen Saturday Pioneer.</p>
<p><img src="http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp260/TurtleIslandProject/Wizard%20of%20Oz%20Controversy/LFranBaum-greenedgesozorg.jpg" alt="" width="105" /></p>
<p>After the (first) Wounded Knee massacre in 1890, Native Americans were the targets of his editorials in his paper.</p>
<p>He explained that the safety of Euro-Americans depends upon the extermination of Indians.</p>
<p><img src="http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp260/TurtleIslandProject/Wizard%20of%20Oz%20Controversy/BaumCollage2.jpg" alt="" width="398" /></p>
<p><strong>Upon hearing of the death of the Sioux Chief Sitting Bull, Baum wrote an editorial for the Aberdeen Saturday Pioneer:</strong></p>
<p><strong>Sitting Bull, the most renown Sioux of modern history, is dead. He was a chief but without kingly lineage - he arose from a lowly position to the great medicine man of his time by virtue of his shrewdness and daring.</strong></p>
<p><strong>The proud spirit of the original owners of these vast prairies inherited through centuries of fierce bloody wars for their possession lingered last in the bosom of Sitting Bull.</strong></p>
<p><strong>With his fall the nobility of the redskin is extinguished.</strong></p>
<p><strong>And what few that are left are a pack of whining curs who lick the hand that smites them.</strong></p>
<p><strong>The Whites, by law of conquest, by justice of civilization, are masters of the American continent, and the best safety of the frontier settlements will be secured by the total annihilation of the few remaining Indians.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Why not annihilation?</strong></p>
<p><strong>Their glory has fled, their spirit broken, their manhood effaced; better that they die than live the miserable wretches that they are.</strong><br />
<strong><br />
After reading the editorial, Hubbard then told the audience:</strong></p>
<p><strong>That was act one  the great Wizard silencing nature.</strong><br />
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Native American Genocide Advocate L. Frank Baum - ironically married kin of a civil rights activist.</p>
<p>Baum married Maud Gage, a daughter of Matilda Joslyn Gage, a famous women's suffrage and radical feminist activist who learned much from American Indian women.</p>
<p>Native Americans were the target of Baum's editorials after the Wounded Knee Massacre.</p>
<p><img src="http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp260/TurtleIslandProject/WoundedKneechiefdead.jpg" alt="" width="397" /></p>
<p><strong>Miniconjou Chief <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Foot" target="_blank">Big Foot</a> lies dead in the snow following Wounded Knee Massacre on Dec. 29, 1890.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Big Foot was the half-brother of famous Lakota Chief Sitting Bull. Two weeks earlier on December 15, Chief <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sitting_Bull" target="_blank">Sitting Bull</a> was killed at his cabin on the Standing Rock.</strong></p>
<p>Baum wrote that the safety of Euro-Americans requires the "extermination of Indians."</p>
<p>Baum written attacks on American Indians are evident in his obituary of Sioux Chief Sitting Bull in the Aberdeen Saturday Pioneer.</p>
<p><img src="http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp260/TurtleIslandProject/Wizard%20of%20Oz%20Controversy/LFrankBaum-Literarytraveler-1.gif" alt="" width="115" /></p>
<p><strong>L Frank Baum - the author of Wizard of Oz - promoted the genocide of Native Americans:</strong></p>
<p><strong>Sitting Bull, most renowned Sioux of modern history, is dead. He was not a Chief, but without Kingly lineage he arose from a lowly position to the greatest Medicine Man of his time, by virtue of his shrewdness and daring.</strong></p>
<p><strong>He was an Indian with a white man's spirit of hatred and revenge for those who had wronged him and his.</strong></p>
<p><strong>In his day he saw his son and his tribe gradually driven from their possessions: forced to give up their old hunting grounds and espouse the hard working and uncongenial avocations of the whites.</strong></p>
<p><strong>And these, his conquerors, were marked in their dealings with his people by selfishness, falsehood and treachery.</strong></p>
<p><strong>What wonder that his wild nature, untamed by years of subjection, should still revolt?</strong></p>
<p><strong>What wonder that a fiery rage still burned within his breast and that he should seek every opportunity of obtaining vengeance upon his natural enemies.</strong></p>
<p><strong>The proud spirit of the original owners of these vast prairies inherited through centuries of fierce and bloody wars for their possession, lingered last in the bosom of Sitting Bull.</strong></p>
<p><strong>With his fall the nobility of the Redskin is extinguished, and what few are left are a pack of whining curs who lick the hand that smites them.</strong></p>
<p><strong>The Whites, by law of conquest, by justice of civilization, are masters of the American continent, and the best safety of the frontier settlements will be secured by the total annihilation of the few remaining Indians.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Why not annihilation?</strong></p>
<p><strong>Their glory has fled, their spirit broken, their manhood effaced; better that they die than live the miserable wretches that they are.</strong></p>
<p><img src="http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp260/TurtleIslandProject/Wizard%20of%20Oz%20Controversy/Hubbardseriesphotos3.jpg" alt="" width="412" /></p>
<p>After the massacre, Baums second editorial on Jan. 3, 1891 said Americans should exterminate Native American Indians because <strong>having wronged them for centuries we had better, in order to protect our civilization ... and wipe these untamed and untamable creatures from the face of the earth.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Baum wrote:</strong></p>
<p><strong>The peculiar policy of the government in employing so weak and vacillating a person as General Miles to look after the uneasy Indians, has resulted in a terrible loss of blood to our soldiers, and a battle which, at best, is a disgrace to the war department.</strong></p>
<p><strong>There has been plenty of time for prompt and decisive measures, the employment of which would have prevented this disaster.</strong></p>
<p><strong>The PIONEER has before declared that our only safety depends upon the total extermination of the Indians.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Having wronged them for centuries we had better, in order to protect our civilization, follow it up by one or more wrong and wipe these untamed and untamable creatures from the face of the earth.</strong></p>
<p><strong>In this lies safety for our settlers and the soldiers who are under incompetent commands.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Otherwise, we may expect future years to be as full of trouble with the redskins as those have been in the past.</strong></p>
<p><strong>An eastern contemporary, with a grain of wisdom in its wit, says that 'when the whites win a fight, it is a victory, and when the Indians win it, it is a massacre."</strong><br />
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<p><strong>Related Links:</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Anti-Vivisectionists - cutting of animal vocal chords:</strong></p>
<p><a href="http://www.adaptt.org/animalrights.html" target="_blank">http://www.adaptt.org/animalrights.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.samizdat.com/micah/animal_rights.html" target="_blank">http://www.samizdat.com/micah/animal_rights.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://pharyngula.org/index/science/comments/good_for_doug_bjerregaard" target="_blank">http://pharyngula.org/index/science/comments/good_for_doug_bjerregaard</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.infonature.org/english/world_news/eng-nature_news_animal_torture.htm" target="_blank">http://www.infonature.org/english/world_news/eng-nature_news_animal_torture.htm</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.tonglen.oceandrop.org/Letter_Ban_Vivisection.htm" target="_blank">http://www.tonglen.oceandrop.org/Letter_Ban_Vivisection.htm</a></p>
<p><strong>Wizard of Oz author L. Frank Baum celebrated the death of Sitting Bull:</strong><br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L._Frank_Baum" target="_blank"><br />
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L._Frank_Baum</a></p>
<p><a href="http://encyclopedia2.thefreedictionary.com/Baum,+L.+Frank" target="_blank">http://encyclopedia2.thefreedictionary.com/Baum,+L.+Frank</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.put.com/oz/ozdi/199712.TXT" target="_blank">http://www.put.com/oz/ozdi/199712.TXT</a></p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wonderful_Wizard_of_Oz" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wonderful_Wizard_of_Oz</a></p>
<p><strong>Apology by fans of Baum and others - plus public comments:<br />
APOLOGY AND PLEDGE: From Planners and Anticipated Participants in the L. Frank Baum Conference for Aberdeen, South Dakota Planned in 1997</strong></p>
<p><a href="http://www.dickshovel.com/roeschbaum.html" target="_blank">http://www.dickshovel.com/roeschbaum.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.dickshovel.com/TwistedFootnote.html" target="_blank">http://www.dickshovel.com/TwistedFootnote.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.dickshovel.com/baumcom.html" target="_blank">http://www.dickshovel.com/baumcom.html</a></p>
<p><strong>Provide comments on apology website:</strong></p>
<p><a href="http://www.dickshovel.com/com.html" target="_blank">http://www.dickshovel.com/com.html</a></p>
<p><strong>Photo credits:</strong></p>
<p><strong>Oz photos/video:</strong></p>
<p><a href="http://battellemedia.com/images/wizard-behind-curtain.jpg" target="_blank">http://battellemedia.com/images/wizard-behind-curtain.jpg</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.milfordtheatreguilde.org/WOCastHome.html" target="_blank">http://www.milfordtheatreguilde.org/WOCastHome.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://oblivio.com/archives/02011701.html" target="_blank">http://oblivio.com/archives/02011701.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.mulholland-drive.net/pics/reference/wizard_shot.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.mulholland-drive.net/pics/reference/wizard_shot.jpg</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.reelclassics.com/Musicals/Wizoz/wizoz.htm" target="_blank">http://www.reelclassics.com/Musicals/Wizoz/wizoz.htm</a></p>
<p><a href="http://ayearofoz.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">http://ayearofoz.blogspot.com/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://filmfanatic.org/reviews/?p=3361" target="_blank">http://filmfanatic.org/reviews/?p=3361</a></p>
<p><a href="http://ozproject.egtech.net/book.php?book_ID=676" target="_blank">http://ozproject.egtech.net/book.php?book_ID=676</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.moviejustice.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=3038" target="_blank">http://www.moviejustice.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=3038</a></p>
<p><strong>L. Frank Baum circa 1901 - Wikipedia:</strong></p>
<p><a href="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/05/L_frank_baum.jpg" target="_blank">http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/05/L_frank_baum.jpg</a></p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:L_frank_baum.jpg" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:L_frank_baum.jpg</a></p>
<p><strong>L Frank Baum Poster from Wikipedia (unknown artist):</strong></p>
<p><a href="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a3/Baum_poster_1b.jpg" target="_blank">http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a3/Baum_poster_1b.jpg</a></p>
<p><strong>Baum photo from Looking Glass Review website:</strong></p>
<p><a href="http://www.lookingglassreview.com/html/l_frank_baum.html" target="_blank">http://www.lookingglassreview.com/html/l_frank_baum.html</a></p>
<p><strong>Baum photo from Pixie Palace website:</strong></p>
<p><a href="http://www.pixiepalace.com/2007/06" target="_blank">http://www.pixiepalace.com/2007/06</a></p>
<p><strong>Baum photo from Literary Traveler website:</strong></p>
<p><a href="http://www.literarytraveler.com/literary_articles/l_frank_baum.aspx" target="_blank">http://www.literarytraveler.com/literary_articles/l_frank_baum.aspx</a></p>
<p><strong>Baum with Green outline from oz.org website:</strong></p>
<p><a href="http://wizardoz.home.att.net/index.html" target="_blank">http://wizardoz.home.att.net/index.html</a></p>
<p><strong>Wizard of Oz Poster of Tin Man from Wikipedia (The Tin Man).</strong></p>
<p><strong>Poster for Fred R. Hamlin's musical extravaganza was created by "The U.S. Lithograph Co., Russell-Morgan Print, Cincinnati &#38; New York." - 1903 U.S. Lithograph Co</strong>.</p>
<p><a href="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1d/Tin-Man-poster-Hamlin.jpeg" target="_blank">http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1d/Tin-Man-poster-Hamlin.jpeg</a></p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Tin-Man-poster-Hamlin.jpeg" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Tin-Man-poster-Hamlin.jpeg</a><br />
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<p><strong>Vivisection photos from Ocean Drop website:</strong></p>
<p><a href="http://www.tonglen.oceandrop.org/Letter_Ban_Vivisection.htm" target="_blank">http://www.tonglen.oceandrop.org/Letter_Ban_Vivisection.htm</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.tonglen.oceandrop.org" target="_blank">http://www.tonglen.oceandrop.org</a></p>
<p><img src="http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp260/TurtleIslandProject/WBCWSLogo1.jpg" alt="" width="160" /></p>
<p><a href="http://www.wbcws.org" target="_blank">White Buffalo Calf Woman Society, Inc.</a> (WBCWS)<br />
PO Box 227<br />
Mission, S.D.<br />
57555</p>
<p>For more info on the <a href="http://www.wbcws.org" target="_blank">WBCWS</a>:</p>
<p>Javier H. Alegree<br />
Public Relations Specialist<br />
Media and Education</p>
<p>(605) 856-2317<br />
(605) 856-2494 (fax)<br />
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Official website of the <a href="http://www.rosebudsiouxtribe-nsn.gov/" target="_blank">Rosebud Sioux Tribe</a> - Sicangu Lakota</p>
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<a href="http://www.nmu.edu/" target="_blank">Northern Michigan University</a> (NMU)</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Michigan_University" target="_blank">NMU on Wikipedia</a><br />
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<a href="http://webb.nmu.edu/Centers/NativeAmericanStudies" target="_blank">NMU Center for Native American Studies</a>:</p>
<p><img src="http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp260/TurtleIslandProject/NMUNAStudies.jpg" alt="" width="325" /></p>
<p>Center for Native American Studies</p>
<p>Northern Michigan University</p>
<p>112F Whitman Hall</p>
<p>Marquette, MI</p>
<p>49855</p>
<p>(906) 227-1397<br />
(906) 227-1396 (fax)<br />
e-mail:<br />
<a href="mailto:nasa@nmu.edu" target="_blank">nasa@nmu.edu</a></p>
<p><img src="http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp260/TurtleIslandProject/2008CTIBBQWingsSeeds7-16-08110-1.jpg" alt="" width="167" /></p>
<p><strong>April Lindala, Director<br />
Center for Native American Studies</strong></p>
<p>(906) 227-1397<br />
(906) 227-1396 (fax)<br />
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<p><img src="http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp260/TurtleIslandProject/TillieBlackBearNMUUnited9-23-10.jpg" alt="" width="160" /><br />
<strong>Grace Chaillier</strong></p>
<p><strong>NMU Adjunct Assistant Professor</strong></p>
<p>Sicangu Lakota band of the Rosebud Sioux</p>
<p>112G Whitman Hall</p>
<p>(906) 227-1390<br />
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<a href="http://www.shannonthunderbird.com/indigenous_women_rights.htm" target="_blank">Great quotes about American Indian women</a> by nations:<br />
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<a href="http://www.nmu.edu/UNITED" target="_blank">Uniting Neighbors in the Experience of Diversity</a> (UNITED):<br />
Northern Michigan University<br />
September 21-23, 2008<br />
Other UNITED links:<br />
<a href="http://webb.nmu.edu/UNITED/SiteSections/2008Schedule.shtml" target="_blank">http://webb.nmu.edu/UNITED/SiteSections/2008Schedule.shtml</a><br />
<a href="http://webb.nmu.edu/Webb/PDFs/UNITED/UNITED_2008.pdf" target="_blank">http://webb.nmu.edu/Webb/PDFs/UNITED/UNITED_2008.pdf</a><br />
<a href="http://webb.nmu.edu/UNITED/SiteSections/GD989.shtml" target="_blank">http://webb.nmu.edu/UNITED/SiteSections/GD989.shtml</a></p>
<p>UNITED Organizers:</p>
<p><img src="http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp260/TurtleIslandProject/TillieBlackBearNMUUnited9-23-9.jpg" alt="" width="161" /></p>
<p><strong>Dr. Judith Puncochar</strong></p>
<p><strong>NMU Professor</strong></p>
<p>906-227-1366<br />
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<p><img src="http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp260/TurtleIslandProject/TIPBridgelogo.jpg" alt="" width="267" /></p>
<p><strong><a href="http://www.turtleislandproject.org" target="_blank">Turtle Island Project</a></strong></p>
<p><strong>Munising, Michigan</strong></p>
<p><strong>Turtle island Project Co-founders:</strong></p>
<p><img src="http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp260/TurtleIslandProject/RevDrLynnHubbardNMUUnited9-23-08-37.jpg" alt="" width="161" /></p>
<p><strong>Rev. Dr. Lynn Hubbard</strong></p>
<p><img src="http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp260/TurtleIslandProject/9-14-07TIPRegConfGeorgeinMunising00.jpg" alt="" width="162" /></p>
<p><strong>Rev. Dr. George Cairns</strong><br />
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<a href="http://turtleislandtv.blip.tv" target="_blank">Turtle Island TV (blipTV)</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/MunisingWhiteHorse" target="_blank">Turtle Island TV (youtube)</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.myspace.com/TurtleIslandProject" target="_blank">Turtle Island (myspace)</a></p>
<p><strong>email the non-profit Turtle Island Project:</strong></p>
<p><a href="mailto:TurtleIslandProject@charter.net" target="_blank">TurtleIslandProject@charter.net</a><br />
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<strong>Anishinaabe News:</strong></p>
<p><a href="http://webb.nmu.edu/Centers/NativeAmericanStudies/SiteSections/Resources/NAS/NishNews.shtml" target="_blank">NMU Native American student-run newspaper</a></p>
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<p><a href="http://www.zimbio.com/member/EarthKeeper"> <img title="My Zimbio" src="http://www.zimbio.com/images/badges/badgeBlue.png?u=EarthKeeper" border="0" alt="My Zimbio" /></a><br />
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<description><![CDATA[Last night, I got the kindest e-mail from a friend whose politics lean on the other end of the spect]]></description>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last night, I got the kindest e-mail from a friend whose politics lean on the other end of the spectrum from mine.</p>
<p>Incidentally, I have dozens of friends who think differently from me...and the beautiful thing is that <em>most </em>of us can discuss the issues, disagree, spar, and perhaps even razz each other a bit.  Of course, some of us can't "go there," so we choose to not broach the subject of religion or politics and all remains well.  Regardless, at the end of the day, we still love each other.</p>
<p>We respect each other.</p>
<p>So back to my friend's e-mail.  She had read my post from yesterday, <a title="“Be Respectful.”…or…You Have to Admit You’ve Gone Off the Deep End When McCain Himself Calls You Out" rel="bookmark" href="../2008/10/10/be-respectful/">“Be Respectful.”…or…You Have to Admit You’ve Gone Off the Deep End When McCain Himself Calls You Out</a>.  She asked me to read <a href="http://foxforum.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/06/02/barack-obama-is-not-a-christian/" target="_blank">an article by Cal Thomas</a> regarding Barack Obama's faith and his Christianity (and the fact that in the 2004 interview he leaned toward a Universalistic view) , and she also asked me view <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OowxMcVTjTE" target="_blank">a video of Louis Farrakhan in which he calls Obama the Messiah</a>.</p>
<p>Yep, he does.  He says, "When the Messiah speaks, the youth will hear."  It's right there, in the link...go listen.</p>
<p>I wrote my dear friend back and decided that I'd like to post my thoughts on this forum as well.</p>
<p>See, here's the thing:  what concerns me about all of this carrying on here is that, first of all, we are not electing the High Priest of the United States. We are electing a President. A government official.  The President will not be the head of the church, as it would be in a theocracy or a country such as Saudi Arabia.  Our government is not a dictatorship, and one man would not have enough power to make any of us follow the religion he believes.  <em>That is what separation of church and state is all about</em>, and that is what makes the United States of America <em>unique </em>and great!</p>
<p>Here's the bigger point, though:  Obama has established that he "did not grow up in a particularly religious household," but he said <em>he changed</em> because of his work as a community organizer in Chicago. "I came to see my faith as being both <strong>a personal commitment to Christ </strong>and a commitment to my community."  <span style="font-size:xx-small;">(<a title="USA Today" href="http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-07-01-obama-faith_N.htm" target="_blank">USA Today </a><span><a title="USA Today" href="http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-07-01-obama-faith_N.htm" target="_blank">7/1/2008</a>)</span></span></p>
<p>My point is who are we to judge Barack Obama in the first place?  As Christians, we believe the role of Judge is reserved for God and God alone.  If we want to take into accountability the fruit of Barack's labor, well certainly you cannot deny the good works he has done in his community.  Yet, we do not walk beside him as he prays or mediates so unless we know him personally, how can we judge?  We can't.  It is such very dangerous ground to tread on when we sit in judgment on another's soul.</p>
<p>Furthermore, so what if Louis Farrakkan thinks Obama is the Messiah or an alien from Mars? Obama has stated publicly *for the record* that he condemns the teachings of Farrakhan. I heard this with my own two ears.  He has no control over what another says about him any more than we do.</p>
<p>Lastly, if we are going to judge somebody for who they associate with, then let's consider this: many of us on a daily basis have to associate ourselves with people we do not agree with on a moral level whether it be through our jobs or other reasons.  Jesus himself associated with sinners; he was a light and encourager (and yes, Savior) to sinners...but that did not make him a sinner.  Because of Jesus' associations, he was despised.</p>
<p>Oh wait, perhaps that is not a good analogy...I am treading too close on putting Obama in the same class as Jesus, and although that is far, far from my intention, it could very easily be taken out of context.  Next thing you know I'll be accused of saying Obama is Jesus reincarnated.</p>
<p>Oy.</p>
<p>How about if I compare him to myself:  because of my job and because of what I consider my ministry, I have associated with death row inmates.  I have tried to be a light and encourager to them that perhaps they will find a better way...but that does not make me a murderous criminal.</p>
<p>Because of my associations with death row inmates, I have been despised.  I was called a <a href="http://sixmeatbuffet.com/archives/2007/04/26/i-wuz-robbed-redux/" target="_blank">pig and "Ginger Christ</a>" on a well-read blog awhile back.  (It's ok, <a href="http://gingersnaps.wordpress.com/2007/04/27/cool-im-a-porcine-pigknuckled-lib/" target="_blank">I had fun with it</a>--I had to, otherwise I would've cried for days.  Ok, not really.)</p>
<p>Am I being too presumptuous to compare myself to Barack Obama?</p>
<p>Or Christ?</p>
<p>I don't know, but aren't we supposed to live our lives striving to <strong>be like Christ</strong>?  (Not be Him, but to be like Him?)</p>
<p>Look, I am a very compassionate, open-minded person. I have had to learn to be because of the hand life has dealt me. That is why I just cannot be so quick to judge Obama so harshly.</p>
<p>The bottom line is that <strong>I do not fear</strong> the future of our country. I do not fear Barack Obama or Joe Biden.  I do not fear John McCain or Sarah Palin.  If I am going to say that I have faith in God -- and I do -- then I believe we as God's children will be just fine no matter who becomes the President next January.  Oh, our future is not going to be an easy one.  There will be hard times no matter who gets in.   I choose to believe that God is in the good.  We need not lower ourselves to slander, hate-mongering, and scare-tactics to try and get our agenda spread, if we really believe what we profess we do.</p>
<p>Certainly, none of this is worth making enemies over.</p>
<p>So, come on everybody...</p>
<p><strong>Be respectful.</strong></p>
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<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 03:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this time of troubled economic stability and a worldwide panic, it has been hard for most Americans to think about much else. People's investments, college funds, pensions, savings accounts, and more have taken deep hits. It's also been shown that more people are confident about Senator Obama's ability to stabilize the stock market and clean up wall street, and all the other political rhetoric they both use. As such, it has been pretty imparitive that the McCain camp either distract people from the economy to present his stronger qualities, or convince people other issues need more attention. Both pathways of attack have been used, and both have seen limited success.</p>
<p>I apologize in advance because this will be a dry statement of my opinions on this topic without much humor, wit, or sarcasm.</p>
<p>The Palin half of the ticket has been launching some pretty inappropriate attacks that have only been fueled further by FOX news. After calling Obama friends with domestic terrorists, she was called out on it, and only defended it by repeating it. Pretty pathetic, right? It is insulting that that's how low of an opinion she has about our collective intelligence. But it worked on so many people it just amazes me. With the aid of FOX news, namely, Sean Hannity, it was the Ayers "scandal" was perpetuated and repeated and now some people believe that Obama must be buddy buddy best friends with him and other domestic terrorists who hate America and went to WAR with America.</p>
<p>Is this really how far we've come? We're going to be as petty as we can and treat the highest office in the nation, and dare I say, world with this sort of immature contempt?</p>
<p>The effects of this spread fast. Friday, the 10th of October, a man at a McCain town hall style event got up and made a couple stupid coy jokes and said he was scared to bring his daughter up under an Obama presidency. I mean, seriously, is this best political discourse some people can come up with? Another woman later on just laid it out and said it. She said... that she's a racist. Basically. Faulting Obama and his campaign for being an ARAB, McCain cut her off and defended Mr. Obama from the second distressingly ignorant insult-in-the-form-of-a-question of the day. People in the audience demanded McCain show no mercy, and when he said he would remain respectful, the assholes actually got pissed off. Are they supporting their candidate, or just reveling in the opportunity to hate and spout off whatever uneducated garbage comes to mind?</p>
<p>I have to say, despite the lower level of commitment to clean and fair campaigning for the last few months, McCain showed some true guts today. Getting booed at his own fucking rally, he defended his opponent and defended clean and respectful politics. I liked that. A lot. It doesn't excuse him for not always playing fair, but at least he drew a clear line where he would venture no further into the dark slanderous campaign path. It certainly doesn't make up for all the ridiculous stunts some of the more outspoken and hostile groups have pulled, in their own names though, not under Mr. Mccain's banner.</p>
<p>So I say again, Good for you, Mr. McCain. It took some real character to take on your own booing audience for a good cause. You said you were commited to a clean campaign in the beginning, and that's how it should remain. It speaks better of both parties when both commit to it, and it demonstrates America's good grace and our values and virtues. It's frankly, rather embarrassing to see smear tactics.</p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 23:49:56 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Szakacs Szabolcs</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[Mi-a trebuit mai bine de o ora sa-mi revin dupa spusele tale, Marius. Stateam cu mana pe tastatura s]]></description>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mi-a trebuit mai bine de o ora sa-mi revin dupa spusele tale, <a title="Te iert" href="http://www.marius-iulian.com/" target="_blank">Marius</a>. Stateam cu mana pe tastatura si pur si simplu nu mai aveam nimic ce sa-ti spun, nimic care merita spus cu adevarat, asa ca am tacut si imi adunam gandurile.</p>
<p>De unde a pornit totul? De la o cearta intre tine si prietena mea, ce a degenerat intr-un razboi dupa cum vad, si din razboaie nu mai castiga nimeni. Cearta nu cred ca ma priveste, dar din punctul tau de vedere se pare ca totusi da...</p>
<p>Ai venit la mine cu un mesaj destul de deranjant. Eu nu ti-am zis niciodata ce sa faci cu prietenele tale, ca si cand ele ar fi doar niste vietati pe care le stapanesti... cum sa imi ceri mai "sa mai lucrez la comportamentul ei", ce-s eu, dresor? Chiar asa? E dreptul ei sa actioneze si sa spuna ce vrea ea in orice moment. De ce crezi tu ca eu am dreptul sa ii impun ceva prietenei mele? NIMENI NU ARE DREPTUL ASTA !!!</p>
<p>Ai fi putut sa iti exprimi gandurile si prin statusul tau "cata tampenie in capul unor oameni... ce o fi in mintea lor frate", era de ajuns asta, nu trebuia sa imi scrii si pe blog...</p>
<p>Faptul ca tu imi ceri sa fac anumite chestii inseamna ca tu nu mai poti psihic, de ce imi ceri mie ajutor, de ce nu lasi de la tine, de ce nu termini tu, sa fie OVER? Inteleg ca va certati, ok, se intampla, dar de ce ma bagi pe mine in asta? Adica vii si vorbesti urat de prietena mea, pe blogul meu, DEDICAT EI, DIN DRAGOSTE... Asta mi se pare lipsa de bun simt si lipsa de respect fata de munca mea, fata de mine... E ca si cum eu am lucrat o luna si jumatate la blogul acesta sa fie frumos, si tu intr-o clipa ai stricat munca mea... Ce te-a determinat sa faci acest gest? A meritat ?</p>
<p>Faptul ca nu puteai sa iei legatura cu ea sa-i zici ce aveai de spus, sa ai tu ultimul cuvant, te-a indemnat sa ma jignesti si pe mine si sa ma ranesti mai mult decat iti inchipui... chiar pe propriul meu blog.</p>
<p>Ce legatura aveam eu man? Chiar asa te enervezi de nu te mai gandesti si la altii, la prietenul tau (ca doar tu ma numeai asa), adica la mine... Oare eu cum ma simt? Recunosc ca stiam de certurile voastre, dar nu m-am bagat... si as fi preferat ca lucrurile sa ramana asa... Eu cu ce ti-am gresit? Te-ai gandit si la mine cand ai vorbit urat de ea, cand ai tratat-o cu superioritate in comantariul tau... Ti-am zis frumos sa te gandesti ca poate are si ea macar putina dreptate, ca nu e totul asa cum pare...</p>
<p>Cu parere de rau pentru tine poate, dar imi iubesc prietena mai mult decat orice pe lumea asta si n-o sa-i impun nimic, fiecare isi merita libertatea de a face ce-i dicteaza mintea si inima.</p>
<p>Am scris acest post in speranta sa intelegi ca prin atitudinea ta ai putea rani si pe cei pe care nu vrei, si sa te gandesti daca chiar merita. Ia spusele mele ca un ajutor din partea mea si nu ca un atac... Numai bine. Poate intelegi ce am vrut sa spun.</p>
<p>PS: NICIODATA, dar serios, NICIODATA, oricare ar fi motivul, nu ma pune in situatia sa trebuiasca sa ma confrunt sau sa ma cert cu prietena mea !!! Asta sa inteleaga toata lumea, spre binele tuturor!</p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 22:48:17 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>petitoiseauchanteur</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[philippiens 4:8

finally, brethren, whatever things are true, whatever things are noble, whatever th]]></description>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>philippiens 4:8</p>
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<p><span lang="EN">finally, brethren, whatever things are true, whatever things are noble, whatever things are just, whatever things are pure, whatever things are lovely, whatever things are of good report, if there is any virtue and if there is anything praiseworthy--meditate on these things.</span></p>
<p>enfin, frères, nourrissez vos pensées<span> </span>de tout ce qui est vrai, noble, juste, pur, digne d'amour ou d'approbation, de tout ce qui mérite respect et louange.</p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 21:35:37 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>everydayislike</dc:creator>
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The other day I mentioned that I felt really good and that I could run a 1000 miles. Today, I feel ]]></description>
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<p style="text-align:left;">The other day I mentioned that I felt really good and that I could run a 1000 miles. Today, I feel like I want to push a tree over just to disrupt traffic in my neighborhood. Man, my moods are fucked up.  I barreled through my local mall today (I had to get to the grocery store at the opposite end) , just to avoid all the people that seemed to be pissing me off. The thing is, it was just their presence that pissed me off. Nothing more, nothing less. The sound of people's voices had me cringing and over boiled. Innocent people stopping to look in shop windows in front of me were almost targets of flagrant elbows. The rent-a-cop security guard at HMV was watching me closely as I checked the $6 DVD bin. I contemplated leaving with an unpurchased item just so I could fight someone (OK, I didn't actually think that... yet he was watching me closely. Dick).</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">My poor wife has taken the brunt of my bad mood today, and has graciously "gone to take a nap". Don't get me wrong. I told her right off today that I was having a hard time and not to take anything personaly. She appreciated my sentiment and has done the one thing someone in my position needs. She has not tried to put me in a good mood. Sometimes we (all humans) just need to get things out. I have remained relatively quiet today and have not tried to drag her down with me. I feel that I have been quite respectful in that vein. I will feel better soon and she and I will laugh at my "I hate this mall... besides us, is there anyone here that isn't showing their underwear over their pants?".</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">Ahh, life.</p>
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<title><![CDATA[Riding high, Obama nods to McCain, rallies fans ]]></title>
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<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 20:19:54 +0000</pubDate>
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By CHARLES BABINGTON, Associated Press Writer 
PHILADELPHIA - His backers feeling increasingly conf]]></description>
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<p><span><span style="font-size:x-small;">By CHARLES BABINGTON, Associated Press Writer </span></span></div>
<p><!-- end storyhdr -->PHILADELPHIA - His backers feeling increasingly confident, <span class="yshortcuts" style="cursor:hand;border-bottom:#0066cc 1px dashed;">Democrat Barack Obama</span> made a slight nod to his Republican rival on Saturday and asked voters to have faith in him as the next president.</p>
<p>Even as he criticized <span class="yshortcuts" style="background:none transparent scroll repeat 0 0;cursor:hand;border-bottom:medium none;">John McCain</span>'s economic policies, Obama acknowledged that the GOP nominee has asked his supporters to temper their attacks on him.</p>
<p>"I appreciated his reminder that we can disagree while still being respectful of each other," Obama told thousands of supporters at the first of four outdoor rallies in Philadelphia.</p>
<p>"<span class="yshortcuts" style="background:none transparent scroll repeat 0 0;cursor:hand;border-bottom:#0066cc 1px dashed;">Sen. McCain</span> has served this country with honor," he said two hours later, in the city's Germantown neighborhood. "He deserves our thanks for that."</p>
<p>At a town-hall event Friday in Minnesota, McCain took the microphone from a woman who said Obama is an Arab. McCain said, "No, ma'am," and he called Obama "a decent, family man."</p>
<p>McCain drew boos at the same event when he told a supporter who expressed fear at the prospect of Obama's election that the Democrat is a "person that you do not have to be scared of as president of the United States."</p>
<p>Read the rest:<br />
<a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081011/ap_on_el_pr/obama;_ylt=AvDsV0RxwvCkW3yOV4n3xVqs0NUE">http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081011/ap_on_el_pr/obama;_<br />
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<title><![CDATA[Who Says Obama Never Organized With ACORN?]]></title>
<link>http://quipster.wordpress.com/?p=4050</link>
<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 06:42:27 +0000</pubDate>
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&#8220;ACORN members meet with Illinois Senate candidate Barack Obama.  Photo printed in 2004 ]]></description>
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"ACORN members meet with Illinois Senate candidate Barack Obama.  Photo printed in 2004 "Social Policy article."<br />
<em>Image courtesy of <a href="http://www.clevelandleader.com/node/7231">http://www.clevelandleader.com/node/7231</a>.</em></p>
<p><strong>There in all of his glorious glow, sits Illinois Senate candidate Carack Obama with ACORN members, in 2004.</strong></p>
<p>According to the <a href="http://www.clevelandleader.com/node/7231">Cleveland Leader's Obama Campaign Involved in More over-Ups in ACORN Scandal</a></p>
<blockquote><p>On Thursday we revealed the connection between <a href="http://clevelandleader.com/node/7203">Barack Obama and Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN)</a>, and uncovered a 2004 article that discussed his involvement with the organization which had recently been removed from the web. Today, the cover-ups continue and language on Obama's fightthesmears.com website has been altered in order to make it look like he has been telling the truth about his ACORN associations all along.</p></blockquote>
<p>Obama and his campaign continue to deny the truth.  Thanks to <a title="Permanent Link to Barack Obama’s Involvement with ACORN Unearthed, Missing Articles Recovered" rel="bookmark" href="http://www.audacityofhypocrisy.com/2008/10/09/barack-obamas-involvement-with-acorn-unearthed-missing-articles-recovered/">Barack Obama’s Involvement with ACORN Unearthed, Missing Articles Recovered</a> at Audacity of Hypocrisy, and  Insight Analytical's <a title="Picture of IL Sen. Candidate Obama with ACORN Members FOUND…" rel="bookmark" href="http://insightanalytical.wordpress.com/2008/10/10/picture-of-sen-candidate-obama-with-acorn-member-found/">Picture of IL Sen. Candidate Obama with ACORN Members FOUND…</a> .</p>
<p>Read the rest of the story <a href="http://www.clevelandleader.com/node/7231">here</a>.</p>
<p>See:</p>
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<li><a href="http://insightanalytical.wordpress.com/2008/10/10/picture-of-sen-candidate-obama-with-acorn-member-found/">http://insightanalytical.wordpress.com/2008/10/10/picture-of-sen-candidate-obama-with-acorn-member-found/</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.audacityofhypocrisy.com/2008/10/09/barack-obamas-involvement-with-acorn-unearthed-missing-articles-recovered/">http://www.audacityofhypocrisy.com/2008/10/09/barack-obamas-involvement-with-acorn-unearthed-missing-articles-recovered/</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.clevelandleader.com/node/7231">http://www.clevelandleader.com/node/7231</a></li>
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<title><![CDATA[R.E.S.P.E.C.T-What it means to mean with regard to Religion.]]></title>
<link>http://metrostateatheists.wordpress.com/?p=261</link>
<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 05:26:18 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>metrostateatheists</dc:creator>
<guid>http://metrostateatheists.tl.wordpress.com/2008/10/11/respect-what-is-means-to-mean-with-regard-to-religion/</guid>
<description><![CDATA[This blog will be different for me since this one won&#8217;t be loaded with facts,  figures, cites ]]></description>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This blog will be different for me since this one won't be loaded with facts,  figures, cites and other drab blather that I normally write.  This blog is about  respecting religious views.   Faith.  An illogical belief that is devoid of  proof.  Where else in our discourse do we actually use this word properly?  I  don't mean the colloquial meaning, in sentences such as "I have faith in  him/her".   For instance, when has anybody (that isn't completely deranged)  actually had faith in any material object?  For those that do, society tends to  pluck up out and have them reside in a special rooms with padded walls.  Why?   Because it is obvious that any unjustified and illogical belief in material  objects is absurd.  So then, why do we tolerate it when the faith is in  something that we can not see and is not material?  It seems to be that this is  far more absurd of the two choices because in the first, at the very least, the  material object's existence can be objectively verified.  This is not so with  the later case.  Back to the original question.  If we can lock people away in  loony bins for believing illogical and wholly unjustified beliefs about reality  and material objects why can't we lock away or merely question these people and  make them defend their claims.  Here's where the problem of respect rears it's  ugly head.  The reason is, society has deemed faith a virtue, for reasons that  baffle and confuse me.  If there is one sociological question I want  conclusively answered, it is why this obviously failed way of thinking has  gained the attribute of being a virtue.  Patients is a virtue, and honestly,  when it comes to this topic, I'm out of it.  Faith isn't a virtue anymore than  Tinker Bell is.  Having faith is something we grow out of as children once we  attain more concrete knowledge for ourselves about the world around us.  Much  like we grow out of having constant temper tantrums for all manner of reasons  and crying when our mother leaves to go the store.  We should not, under any  circumstances, be required to respect this view anymore than we respect peoples  views and beliefs about anything else in our discourse.  Imagine a world in  which you'd be admonished for questioning someone's opinion that the Holocaust  never took place or about their political views.  That's the road to fascism and  theocracy, paved with the assault on our freedom of speech.  Faith isn't worthy  of respect because it has no attributes worth respecting.  Religion, all  religion, in the same breath is lacking in components that deserve our respect  at all.  People will respect others out of empathy for one another.  However,  views are part of who the person is, and thus, contrary to popular belief, if  you don't respect someone's views, beliefs or faith that doesn't mean you don't  respect them as people.  All the proof you need for this is the scientific  community.  Pick up any peer-review journal and you'll be inundated with  humbleness and criticism.  And yet their aren't radical groups of scientists  roaming about threatening people with death for blaspheming the Theory of  Evolution.  The goal should be for humans to understand one another and respect  each other, NOT our views and beliefs about reality.  Let all those that feel  it isn't ok or "right" to question and criticize the religions beliefs of other  people, what are you scared of?  That we might convince others, and quite  rightly, that religion may in fact be outdated and no longer serves our species  a purpose?  Atheists/agnostics/humanists/freethinkers, don't be afraid to  question or criticize the beliefs of others, especially religious beliefs  because it's socially taboo.  You have the right of free speech, for now.  Use  it.  It make be the very thing that guarantees you that right in the future.</p>
<p>-Joel</p>
<p>President</p>
<p>Metro State Atheists</p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 02:35:50 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Dev Riddle</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[Currently, my school is addressing the subject of respect in its midst. However they may see it, I b]]></description>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Currently, my school is addressing the subject of respect in its midst. However they may see it, I believe that they are basing respect off of a completely different idea and concept. Suddenly this year, adding a Mr. or Mrs. to the beginning of a reference to a teacher or faculty member is absolutely necessary; even for those of us who are practically a part of the faculty. Although I do believe that respect is highly important in a learning environment, it seems clear to me that at this rate they are creating a strict learning community in which students will not be content or comfortable. The ability to nickname your teacher something playful and fun (not a profanity or anything obsene or offensive) should not be forebade. With a common comfort circling the school, both students and teachers are enabled to <em>enjoy</em> what they are teaching.. rather than worrying more about the strict rules they must adhere to. Teachers and students are stressed enough by the constant goals they are expected to reach and do not need more stress by something as trivial as enforcing the professional basis of names in the school. If it does not negatively affect the learning ability and process of others, then why worry about it?</p>
<p>Moral: Focusing is easy, but its what you chose to focus on that matters in the end.</p>
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<title><![CDATA[Freedom is respect and respect is freedom]]></title>
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<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 02:16:12 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>ichabod</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[Respect for your fellow man or woman.  Respect their right to a peaceful productive life.  Respect ]]></description>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Respect for your fellow man or woman. </strong> Respect their right to a peaceful productive life.  Respect their faiths or beliefs.  Respect their privacy.  Allow them to make mistakes as others have allowed you to make yours.</p>
<p>Don't pay mind to color or race or economic status.  We are created equal and mankind separates us as we grow.</p>
<p>Expect the same from fellow man and woman.  That is your freedom to believe and think for you.  Their respect for you gives you the freedom to live in peace and harmony.</p>
<p>Without respect there can be no freedom.  There can be no respect without freedom.</p>
<p>Hand in hand there may be peace.</p>
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<title><![CDATA["Be Respectful."...or...You Have to Admit You've Gone Off the Deep End When McCain Himself Calls You Out]]></title>
<link>http://gingersnaps.wordpress.com/?p=1932</link>
<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 01:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>GingerSnaps</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[I came across this post over at Mack&#8217;s place where we see this very interesting sign that is e]]></description>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://gingersnaps.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/racist-sign.jpg"><img class="size-full wp-image-1933 alignleft" title="racist-sign" src="http://gingersnaps.wordpress.com/files/2008/10/racist-sign.jpg" alt="" width="185" height="146" /></a>I came across this post over at <a title="Coyote Chronicles" href="http://coyotechronicles.wordpress.com/2008/10/10/tennessee-republicans-export-strategy-to-missouri/" target="_blank">Mack's place</a> where we see this very interesting sign that is evidently posted in Missouri.</p>
<p>Rather than give my own take on it, I defer to <a title="Heartbreaktown" href="http://heartbreaktown.wordpress.com/" target="_blank">Heartbreaktown</a>, who gave the perfect comment...</p>
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<blockquote><p>I love the “quotes”!  Funny, I have never seen anyone put quotes around their middle name.</p>
<p>If Obama is pro-contraception [meaning, having healthcare coverage for contraception], there will likely be less abortions.</p>
<p>I recall Obama flat-out saying he was opposed to same-sex marriage.</p>
<p>Obama’s plan calls for less taxes for me, if it’s more for you, then you must make over $250k.  Congrats!</p>
<p>Gun regulations - I hope so.</p>
<p>But I have seen him wear that head dress, so he must be muslim.  Guiliani wore make-up,  so I guess that makes him a woman.</p></blockquote>
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<p>Then, I was perusing one of my favorite new-to-me blogs, <a title="Screaming From The Rooftop" href="http://rooftopscreaming.blogspot.com/2008/10/he-predicted-all-of-this-back-in-july.html" target="_blank">Screaming From The Rooftop</a>, wherein <span class="post-author vcard"><span class="fn">Jon-Marc McDonald reminds us that <a title="video on YouTube" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jH2iufUU1f4" target="_blank">back in July, Barack himself predicted</a> that those who would want to leave things the way they are in this world would try to instill <strong>fear</strong> in us...make us <strong>scared</strong> of him: "he's not patriotic enough, he's got a funny name...he doesn't look like those other presidents...he's <em>risky</em>..."</span></span></p>
<blockquote><p>It's true that change is hard.  Change isn't easy.  The question you have to ask yourself is what's more risky?  Going ahead and bringing about changes that we know we have to make in order to assure that our children have a better future, or doing the same things that we have been doing over and over again even though we know they don't work?</p>
<p>Folks, we are in a time right now when it is too risky not to change.  It is risky to keep on doing what we're doing, to accept the tired status quo.</p>
<p style="padding-left:60px;"><span style="font-size:x-small;">--Barack Obama</span></p>
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<p>As a Christian, I believe that <strong>God has not given me the spirit of fear</strong>, but of power, love, and a sound mind (II Timothy 1:7).  Therefore, I have to wonder why we are seeing such <a title="Time.com" href="http://www.time-blog.com/swampland/2008/10/mccain_denounces_pitchforkwave.html" target="_blank">"vicious anti-Obama attitude" coming forth in these McCain rallies</a>?  Why do some feel the need to bear false witness against this man who proclaims to be a brother in Christ?  Why, just the other night, it <em>absolutely broke my heart</em> to see one of my friends from church write on their Facebook status that Barack Obama was a con-artist and the anti-Christ.  I'm sorry, folks, but there is <em>no evidence whatsoever</em> that the man has bowed before any graven images. If you tell me there is evidence, then YOU have the obligation to PROVE it.  Simple as that.  All any of us have to our names is our word.  Obama's word is what it is, and he has continued to have an answer for each and every accusation that has come forth from his enemies, just as much as John McCain and Sarah Palin have.</p>
<p>Well, except for the fact that as I write this, I just got a text message that an Alaska legislative panel found that Palin abused her power in a state official's firing, although she violated no law.</p>
<p>See?  It goes both ways.  Pray all you want, but the fact remains that nobody gets to that level of power without getting their hands dirty.</p>
<p>The hateful rhetoric has gotten so bad that Barack Obama's opponent, John McCain, is now having to defend him.  At a Minnesota rally, <a title="video on YouTube" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hKn1SO7upY" target="_blank">McCain himself had to tell his supporters to TONE IT DOWN</a>!</p>
<p>From <a title="Time.com" href="http://www.time-blog.com/swampland/2008/10/mccain_denounces_pitchforkwave.html" target="_blank">Time.com</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>"I respect Sen. Obama and his accomplishments." People booed at the mention of his name.</p>
<p>McCain, visibly angry, stopped them: "I want EVERYONE to be respectful, and lets make sure we are."</p>
<p>The very next questioner tried to push back on this request, noting that he needed to "tell the American the TRUTH about Barack Obama" -- a not very subtle way, I think, to ask John McCain to NOT tell the truth about Barack Obama.</p>
<p>McCain told her there's a "difference between record and rhetoric, and I plan to talk about his record, respectfully... I don't mean that has to reduce your ferocity, I just mean it has to be respectful."</p>
<p>And then later, again, someone dangled a great big piece of low-hanging fruit in front of McCain: "I'm scared to bring up my child in a world where Barack Obama is president."</p>
<p>McCain replies, "Well, I don't want him to be president, either. I wouldn't be running if I did. But," and he pauses for emphasis, "<strong>you don't have to be scared to have him be President of the United States.</strong>" A round of boos.</p>
<p>And he snaps back: "Well, obviously I think I'd be better. "</p>
<p>Of course, this is kind of the best of both world: Crazy base-world gets to bring up Ayers and whatever else, really, and he gets to say, "Be respectful."</p>
<p>But I think he means it.</p>
<p>UPDATE: Indeed, he just snatched the microphone out the hands of a woman who began her question with, "<em>I'm <strong>scared </strong>of Barack Obama...</em> <em>he's an Arab terrorist</em>..."</p>
<p>"No, no ma'am," he interrupted. "He's a decent family man with whom I happen to have some disagreements."</p></blockquote>
<p>Alrighty then, let's see how much McCain supporters truly respect the man they rallying behind.</p>
<p>Did you hear what he said?</p>
<p><strong>"Be respectful."</strong></p>
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<link>http://wwnh.wordpress.com/?p=1018</link>
<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 00:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>GuyMaligned</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[Self-interest motivates everyone to do what they do. Immature men make life tough, but the mature wo]]></description>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:yellow;text-indent:.25in;line-height:115%;text-align:left;margin:0 5.4pt 0 0;" align="left"><span style="font-size:14pt;color:#000000;line-height:115%;"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman;">Self-interest motivates everyone to do what they do. Immature men make life tough, but the mature woman has the natural expertise to overcome.</span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:yellow;text-indent:.25in;line-height:115%;text-align:left;margin:0 5.4pt 0 0;" align="left"><span style="font-size:14pt;color:#000000;line-height:115%;"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:yellow;text-indent:13.5pt;line-height:115%;text-align:left;margin:0 5.4pt 0 0;" align="left"><span style="font-size:14pt;color:#000000;line-height:115%;"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman;">She <strong><em>fears</em></strong> abandonment. She fears losing him above all else, whether killed, incapacitated, or a walk out. Abandonment strikes her ego as well as her heart.</span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:yellow;text-indent:13.5pt;line-height:115%;text-align:left;margin:0 5.4pt 0 0;" align="left"><span style="font-size:14pt;color:#000000;line-height:115%;"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"><span> </span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:yellow;text-indent:13.5pt;line-height:115%;text-align:left;margin:0 5.4pt 0 0;" align="left"><span style="font-size:14pt;color:#000000;line-height:115%;"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman;">She expects him to overextend himself, as necessary, to provide reassurances. The devoted husband sacrifices to avoid torturing his loveable wife with continual fears that weaken her appreciation for him.</span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:yellow;text-indent:13.5pt;line-height:115%;text-align:left;margin:0 5.4pt 0 0;" align="left"><span style="font-size:14pt;color:#000000;line-height:115%;"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:yellow;text-indent:13.5pt;line-height:115%;text-align:left;margin:0 5.4pt 0 0;" align="left"><span style="font-size:14pt;color:#000000;line-height:115%;"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman;">He <strong><em>fears</em></strong> insignificance, and her eyes reflect it first. Her lack of respect and gratefulness makes his sense of significance decay. Wounding his spirit can be terminal.</span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:yellow;text-indent:13.5pt;line-height:115%;text-align:left;margin:0 5.4pt 0 0;" align="left"><span style="font-size:14pt;color:#000000;line-height:115%;"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:yellow;text-indent:13.5pt;line-height:115%;text-align:left;margin:0 5.4pt 0 0;" align="left"><span style="font-size:14pt;color:#000000;line-height:115%;"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman;">Even slight decay can jumpstart motivational forces in him. He seeks to restore his sense of manliness—more independence, expensive toys, trophy woman, or just walk out. Mid-life crisis worsens whatever he chooses to do.</span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:yellow;text-indent:13.5pt;line-height:115%;text-align:left;margin:0 5.4pt 0 0;" align="left"><span style="font-size:14pt;color:#000000;line-height:115%;"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:yellow;text-indent:13.5pt;line-height:115%;text-align:left;margin:0 5.4pt 0 0;" align="left"><span style="font-size:14pt;color:#000000;line-height:115%;"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman;">He doesn’t necessarily expect it, but ‘smart wife’ becomes head cheerleader for who he is and what he does. She also adds each child to the cheerleading squad.</span></span></p>
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